Scott::: I think the biggest question out there, for those who don't already know
you, is who the heck are you? what's your background?
I started making music in my freshman year of high school, played bass in a
couple of rock/punk bands, got my first keyboard in my junior year of HS,
tinkered with it for a while, never really doing anything major with it,
then I was inspired to take the next step by an engineer/producer friend of
mine named EJ, he gave me the confidence to believe that I could actually
make music and be good at it.
Music has really been the thing thats saved me, helped me maintain my sanity
in some rather trying situations. It keeps the multitude of voices that
pollute my head silent. Vernon Reid (of living colour) said something in an
interview once that really stuck with me... to paraphrase: "I don't
necessarily make music because it's "fun" or because I enjoy it or even
because I "want" to. I make music because I have to, it's not a choice, it
is as necessary for me as air. At the same time tho, I try not to take
anything, even music, too seriously. It's a delicate balance I think. By no
means am I completely unpretentious, I do have my lapses, but for the most
part I'm pretty down to earth.
Anyways, I've been a huge fan of Skinny Puppy/Download for a long time,
since early high school I guess. (I remember rushing out with my friend Newt
to buy Furnace the day it came out, trembling with anticipation as I put it
in the CD player.) So when I found myself with the opportunity to work with
Kev I was... well, very psyched.
One of those fairy tale, dream come true kind of things... Now if only
prince charming would make his move.... heh!
But uhhhh....
My contribution to 'ego disolve' was the chain reactiony synth intro and some
synth bass work. There was a bunch more I wanted to do on it but I worked on
it right as I was heading off to London, and by the time I got back the
track was done. Its a damn fine song, an almost free form jazz drum beat
made heavy and doused with ethereal ambience. Its one of those songs that,
to me, demonstrates just how well kevin and phil play off each other
musically.
As for 'Ayahuasca', I kinda birthed that one, I did the base tracks, and
arranged a kind of skeleton, the basic rhythm and the hand percussion that
comes in half way through, etc. Kev and Phil defintiely took it to a place
that blew me away.
At first it was really wierd working with someone who was such an
inspiration to me, I was afraid to make any comments or criticisms or change
anything... but after a while I got a bit more confident, and I no longer
feel like I'm working with cEvin and Philth of Download, it's more like I'm
working with kev and phil, my friends. They're such amazing musicians, and
very very easy to work with, so I've been able to adjust pretty quick.
One thing I've learned is to be a lot more spontaneous in the creation
process, whereas before I was very logic driven/methodical. I'd never touch
the keyboard, everything I did would be programmed directly into the
sequencer. Whereas now I'm more inclined to noodle around on the keyboard,
play something and then fiddle with the MIDI data until I'm happy with it.
The partnership is a wonderful give and take and a learning process for both
of us. Robert comes from a totally different school of thought than I do,
he's more interested in classically influenced music, creating movement and
texture with melody rather than rhyhtm, whereas I approach music from a kind
of esoteric point of view, thinking in terms of noise and rhythm and
concept. That's not to say we don't overlap thoughts from time to time, tho.
It makes for a nice brew, I think we tend to avoid the trap of cold
emotionless music that so many electronic acts get stuck in. (at least I
think/hope we do)
The music we make ranges from very harsh/aggressive electronic (I'm hesitant
to use the word "industrial" because of the connotations it brings) to very
beautiful "intelligent pop", and everything in between. The Download/Puppy
influence is probably apparent in my style, but I don't think we sound
anything like them.
Not to get too self important or overestimate our place in the world, but
one of the things we're trying to do is side step the sterotype of gay
artists being fluffy or campy. Lesbians are great at popping out serious
artists into the pop music consciousness, but the gay male community keeps
spitting out Ricki Martins and Backstreet Boys and Elton Johns, while its
fun, its never really taken all that seriously. With the exception of Coil,
who is relatively obscure/exceedingly uncommercial, I'm really hard pressed
to name any serious gay musicians.
I'd like to note, though, that I think our music transcends sexuality.
We're a pair of musicians who happen to be gay, not a pair of gays who
happen to be musicians.
We (our tentative name is DMT, but I think some rap band already has the
name so who knows) plan on releasing an album sometime in the near future,
hopefully with the subconscious stamp on it. :)
One of our most pressing projects at the moment is doing soundtrack work for
performance artist Ron Athey, a friend of mine and a
brilliant artist.
We did some soundtrack work with him last year for a series of solo
performances, which came out really well (I hope to have the music tacked on
to the end of the first DMT album). The pieces were performed everywhere
from France to London to LA (its a really cool feeling to know that music
I've done has been so far reaching). His next piece is slated to be
performed this coming January in Denmark, and I'm scrambling to get the
music written/finished in time. Locking myself up in the studio until all
hours of the night, trying to keep everything restrained, not going over the
top. Our main way of working on stuff for Ron, since it needs to be way more
noise based and less "music" based than anything else we do, is I get most
of the basic tracks recorded and then Robert comes in and does his thing.
Then from there we mold it into the final product.
It's daunting, but with the new recording setup, its made a lot easier... it
allows me to work more on impulse. Ron's work is very primal and emotional,
ranging from harsh/brutal to beautiful. I guess some people might call "high
art", and I really enjoy being able to be a part of that.
My main goal, however, is really to just meet the Indigo Girls. :)
Bill Van Rooy::: Oh my... rather broad question.
Well, I was born 09/08/1977, grew up in Los Angeles, around
Pasadena/Glendale. I'm a college drop out, former drug addict, computer
programmer, and musician (duh!)
Scott::: Regarding Download's 'Effector,' what was your contributions to the songs
'ego dissolve' and 'ayahuasca'?Bill Van Rooy::: Well, nitpicking who did what on which song can get a little iffy, every
track is, more or less, a group effort.
Scott:: ...and what exactly does 'hand percussion' mean? i'm referring to your
contribution on The Tear Garden track 'Castaway' from the new album
'Crystal Mass.'Bill Van Rooy::: Well, if you listen to Castaway, pay attention to the rhythm. You'll hear
standard drums, but on top of that you'll hear a "ethnic" percussion part
kind of hanging over it... that's me. Kevin snagged me and said "Bill, do
some native percussion on this track"... (fwiw, I tried to go for a bit of a
shag tobacco (gavin friday) type of feel, because thats what the bass in
that track reminds me of.) It's programmed, not played by hand, so "hand
percussion" _is_kind of misleading.
Scott::: What is it like working with cEvin Key and Phil Western, from a musicians
point of view?Bill Van Rooy::: It's great, I'm constantly learning, growing, changing. Both Kev and Phil
are very accomplished/experienced musicians, and being thrown into the
middle of things so to speak, I've had to learn a whole lot really fast to
keep from drowning.
Scott::: I know you have your own band/project too. what are you working on now?Bill Van Rooy::: Robert, my music partner, and I have been working together for about 3 years
or so, kind of working on tracks, re-working on tracks... But we never
actually got anything recorded to our satisfaction. This past September we
finally dropped the cash for a hard disk recording setup, complete with dual
processor G4 (yay!), so we're in the process of fixing up and mixing our
older tracks along with writing a few more tracks. We're now to the point
where we're ready, as people and musicians, to start really focusing on
getting some music released.
Scott::: any plans with cEvin or Phil on any future project?Bill Van Rooy::: Oh yeah, definitely. We've already been working on the 2nd album for
metropolis now for um... well, a long time. And whenever the subconscious
family tour goes down, I definitely hope to be a part of that. I want to get
my grimy little fingers into as many projects as possible, get my name out
there, get experience, learn, grow.... Balancing a day job and music is a pain in the ass tho, so I don't get to do
as much work as I'd like.
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